Monday, April 5, 2010

Rick Warren, a speaker to avoid!!!

Two days ago I posted my utter disappointment and disgust at John Piper's invitation and defense of inviting Rick Warren to the Desiring God conference.
BTW as Tim Challies points out Rick Warren was invited to speak long before these 'questions' were asked of him, in otherwords the questions were not for Piper they were intended to justify to others why Rick Warren (it should seem odd that such a explanation is needed).
I would recommend reading what Tim Challies has to say concerning this matter. HERE

MAJOR concerns regarding Rick Warren:
(please note I simply don't have the time available to me or the connection speed to link you everywhere, so you'll need to some work if you aren't familiar with something)

I must also point out that many are attempting to make this a 'reformed' battle over non-essentials, I'm sorry but the issue IS NOT about what Rick Warren says about "REFORMED" theology, but rather it concerns the HEART OF THE GOSPEL!!!

Is there a name who could better define: Pragmatism (in it's worst sense)?????

Is there any current pastor who has had a greater influence on countless churches who have further blurred the lines of what a true believer is??????

Is there a name who has influenced more ministers to use translations (good or bad) in order to preach their messages (NOT what the scripture says)..The ULTIMATE example of ISOGESIS

Is it a rare blessing or curse to be the first minister invited to NORTH KOREA (though it didn't take place)????

Likewise is it a blessing or curse to be picked by the Obama administration to pray????? (Did Rick evoke the name ISA??)

What about his endorsements of contemplative spirituality (you can read this)

What do you think about this:
Warren is part of the ultra-conservative Southern Baptist Convention, and all his senior staff sign on to the SBC's doctrines, such as the literal and infallible Bible and exclusion of women as senior pastors. Yet Warren's pastor-training programs welcome Catholics, Methodists, Mormons, Jews and ordained women.
"I'm not going to get into a debate over the non-essentials. I won't try to change other denominations. Why be divisive?" he asks, citing as his model Billy Graham, "a statesman for Christ ministering across barriers."

Taken from a USATODAY article HERE

Does it not also seem quite unusual for a 'doctrinally solid' (HA!) minister to be praised by muslims and for this to be reported:
He also gave a practical example of how Muslims and Christians can work together by pointing to his PEACE plan, a massive effort to mobilize one billion Christians to combat the five biggest problems in the world – spiritual emptiness, corrupt leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic diseases, and illiteracy and lack of education
ARTICLE HERE UM?? Spiritual emptiness(how exactly do we do THAT with MUSLIMS???)

It's OBVIOUS that this man doesn't believe in the sufficiency of scripture (as seen in his twisting it to fit his message). This is also made clear by his numerous invitations of psychologists (and endorsements) at engagements!

IS there ANYONE who RICK WARREN doesn't please and isn't praised by except for those who LOVE the gospel and wish to see it declared and defined?????????????????


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Rick Warren's emphasis is NOT on the glory of God but on appealing to the masses and his popularity is continually growing. In a day where Christianity is openly opposed and viciously attacked due to it's 'intolerance' this 'minister' is being praised and promoted!!!???

There is a major disconnect growing within those who call themselves 'reformed/reforming' and that growing disconnect is a MAJOR following after BIG ministries and their ministers DESPITE the fact that these same people say 'Numbers don't mean success!' but as we know 'actions speak louder than words!'. It should seem quite SHOCKING that professed admirers and avid readers of such as SPURGEON, EDWARDS, WHITEFIELD, the PURITANS and the like could actually consider that Rick Warren has some 'minor' (secondary) differences.
This IDOLATRY of men who have large churches is so absolutely clear in the great fear of many to even bring up this subject, when they have clearly seen (if not experienced) the cancer-like effects of Rick Warren's ministry.
No man is above testing, whether it's Piper, Macarthur, Sproul, Washer etc... We should be CONTINUALLY testing all things according to the scriptures despite how emotionally confused we are. Of course that doesn't mean we need to go BEYOND the obvious and begin to imagine and accuse men like Piper of things that we have no clue about. We needn't declare that Piper is a heretic because we feel he has made poor choices, though if it ever gets there (GOD FORBID) we MUST not be fearful to call it what it is. I want to also point out that it's equally foolish to suppose that Piper is clueless concerning the practices, associations, and teachings of Rick Warren.
Ultimately the issue is Piper's sphere of influence, because of this there is 'much required of him'. To confuse and blur the lines of the gospel in the minds of many by bringing in a man who is the essence of 'American Christianity' will NOT edify the church.
I hope that the Ministers who know Piper will beg him to change his mind (like Iain Murray) especially those who devote much of their time and energy to bringing BACK clarity to the gospel, calling ministers to return to the scriptures for guidance, and for the restoration of healthy churches!!!

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